Showing posts with label Love. Show all posts
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Friday, September 15, 2017

Marriage and Relationship being Lost in Translation.

After reading In Families, Friends, and Special Obligations and watching the film Lost in Translation, I am left wondering how can we define the relationship between Bill Murray’s character Bob Harris and Scarlett Johansson’s Charlotte.

Diane Jeske says that, “Friendships…seems to be an instance of a relationship that individuals choose to enter and maintain”. Then she investigates the nature of friendships by pointing out that “persons do not enter friendships in single discrete acts such as those involved in making a promise or a contract.” She continues saying that “friendships are constituted by complex clusters of actions and attitudes, they are relationships of intimacy and expressed concern“ (439).

But as Jeske points out, it is not always easy to determine if two people are friends. She asks, “Is the person whom one plays tennis with twice a week a friend?” (440).

If we were to rephrase and place Dr. Jeske’s question within the context of the film Lost in Translation, it would look something like “Are two lonely, despairing spouses who sleep, party, eat together for a few days, but have intimate conversations they cannot have with their own spouses…meet the qualifications of being titled as friends?”

What do y'all think?

Jeske says genuine intimacy demands mutuality and reciprocity. It is evident that Charlotte and Bob have genuine interest in each other and they reciprocate it. It seems this intimacy is established in Bob's and Charlotte’s state of life.  Both are married and unhappy, and they are seeking the purpose/meaning in life. The youthful, adventurous Charlotte looks to the older, wiser Bob to help her in that journey.

So it is apparent the two share a common bond, and this bond leads to intimacy. However, Charlotte and Bob only develop this bond over a course of a few days. They then separate, and assumingly never see each other again. What does this tell us about their relationship? Or friendship (if they are friends)?


I would argue that Dr. Jeske would say Charlotte and Bob are not friends, because she views friendship as a mutual commitment/project involving one another. It is a shared project that both parties develop over a period of time, and this project is developed and maintained. By her standard, it would seem that the two abandoned their mutual project (if there even was one). Bob goes home to his wife and family, and Charlotte is left in Tokyo with her husband. Their obligations aren’t to each other, but instead to the people they promised to be committed to in their marriage. Bob is obviously struggling immensely in this regard, considering the fact he (presumingly) has sex with the bar singer.  It can also be inferred that Charlotte is second-guessing her marriage, too, with her loneliness and wild-nights out with Bob. However, in the end it would seem they appreciated and enjoyed each others time, but they have obligations and duties they must do their best to adhere to.

The Greatest of These is Love

In Baz Luhrmann’s 2001 more modern, musical interpretation of Moulin Rouge!, the star courtesan of the Moulin Rouge, Satine, must choose between her life long goal of becoming an actress and her love for the poor bohemian poet, Christian. Satine also faces an internal conflict of where her loyalties and obligations lie. There is little to no background on Satine revealed during the course of the film, yet it is made apparent that her cohorts at the Moulin Rouge act as her pseudo-family. Especially with Harold Zidler acting as somewhat of a father figure for Satine.  Satine is faced with a choice: seduce the Duke, gain his funding, and become a famous actress like she always dreamed or let herself succumb to love. Satine choses the later. 

Diane Jeske defines special obligations as “obligations that are owed not to all persons, but to some limited class of persons, where the fundamental justification for the having of such obligations is not the intrinsic nature of the obligee as such, or, at least, not only the intrinsic nature of the obligee.” Jesse makes the distinction that these are not the same as natural duties which are moral requirements for how one should act. In Moulin Rouge!, natural duties are pretty much a non-issue. Seeing as almost all of the characters are members of the underworld in Paris and characters such as the Duke are simply immoral characters, they do not hold the same belief that is expected of natural duties. Therefore, Satine’s motivations are based in special obligations. She has an obligation to the Moulin Rouge and its inhabitants to seduce the Duke in order to keep the doors of the Moulin Rouge open after Zidler signs away the deed. 

Satine’s special obligation to Zidler and the Moulin Rouge lies in a sense of reciprocity. They have made her what she is so she owes them her aid with the Duke. Although this special obligation extends to a sense of a familial obligation, Satine develops somewhat of a familial relationship with Christian. 

“The greatest thing you’ll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return.” 

When Satine finally admits to her love for Christian, her loyalties to him begin to surpass those to the Moulin Rouge. Her ultimate decision to succumb to the Dukes desires is not out of a repayment to the Moulin Rouge, rather it is solely based in her need to save Christian’s life because he is actually someone whom she loves. The focus the film has on the ideas of Truth, Beauty, Freedom, and Love reveal that ultimately the greatest of these is Love.